![]() To me, for example, librewolf is a valuable alternative that allows me to improve my privacy, and I honestly highly appreciate that it is a community effort that tries to be private by default, versus a Mozilla software that can be configured to be more private. I think that user empowerement is a good thing and more privacy related projects means a growing privacy community that can learn by working togheter, despite having different views on software, and even on the value of a project. Yes, you sounded harsh, but your criticism is something that we should build on, and your opinion on the need of a hardened Firefox alternative is respectable, although I do not agree with this as I don't see an issue with having more than a single option when it comes to privacy tools. I have no problem admitting that I share some of arkenfox's views and I apply them to my own personal setup: in the end me, as many others, would not be able to achieve improvements in privacy without a strong collaborative effort with the privacy community.įor this very reason I think that all the technical stuff that you mentioned in your comments should not go unheard by the librewolf community, but in fact it should be taken into consideration as something that we should work on, as a chance for improvement. I want to start this by saying that I value your opinion and I respect you and your work a lot: I've used arkenfox's user.js for a long time and I've learnt a lot from your documentation, so of course it would be stupid to come out here and say that I don't care about your thoughts on the current status of librewolf, or even worst that I don't know about your effort towards privacy. Hi, osx maintainer of librewolf here, but I will mainly speak for myself in this comment. I may sound harsh, and I have zero love for Librewolf, but it's a solution looking for a problem: they all are. with uBO and some easy toggles for compat), you know, like Tor Browser with HTTPS+NoScript and a slider, then maybe: but then WTF is so hard about dropping a user.js in and installing uBO. Now, if they sorted all that pref out, and valued security over privacy, and it was a one-click install and forget (e.g. The whole thing seems to be, and at least attracts all the crazies, about how to beat the jewgle femto mozilla botnet into submission and be based. This harks back to initika's compilation in the old librefox: where he basically scraped together every single pref he could find under the sun, merged them all into a single file, and set them all to break everything possible which takes precedence: security or privacy?.no clear strategy of what they are doing and way too many wishwashy conflicts.failure to even keep up with prefs changes (and yet they still claim it uses the "ghacks" user.js).overkill on prefs and redundancy (making it harder to revert).I'm not saying they don't do it, just that it is important that they do it, not for a couple of months, but for a long period of time, constantly.Īnd it's configuration is a complete mess Lastly, there's the fact of whether or not they are able to maintain LibreWolf up to date. You need a lot of time and money to do something like this, and we should help them. I think it would be the best scenario if Privacy Tools would lead as many people as possible towards using Firefox, I really like forks like this or Waterfox, or whatever other crazy stuff there is, but if Mozilla dies all that dies, too, there's no way any kind of group of individuals or whatever that will keep that alive, and even if it's possible it will just make things harder. Firefox couldn't create something designed only for the most private conscious individuals, it would go to ruin, which takes me to another point. Then there's the fact that I feel all the "bloat" they remove are features or options which can be easily disabled in the settings or in about:config, and if you think about Firefox being used by regular Janes and Joes it makes sense for them to be there, I'm sure my mother doesn't care about that safe browsing connecting to Google's list of safe websites, and I prefer that since at least there's a layer of protection. ![]() ![]() First and foremost it doesn't have an Android build which will make recommendations harder, it also doesn't have a Windows build which would make it unsuitable as of now (but I know they are working on it). I know there isn't another issue regarding LibreWolf but I'm sure it has already been discussed in the forum the reasons of why it wouldn't be listed. ![]()
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